鬼に金棒

英語 translation: unbeatable advantage

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日本語の用語またはフレーズ	鬼に金棒
英語訳	unbeatable advantage
入力者	KathyT

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04:44 Aug 25, 2005

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日本語の用語またはフレーズ 鬼に金棒

What would be the best English equivalent of this phrase/idiom?
The sentence is:
ファイナンスのスキルを身に付けられたら鬼に金棒ではないですか

Katalin Horvath McClure KudoZ活動状況質問 588 (none open) (36 closed without grading) 回答： 1948 米国
Local time: 16:58

Acquiring financial skills gives (one) an unbeatable advantage

説明：
Hi Katalin,

Eijiro gives various renditions of this idiom.
My punt given above, but take your pick!

技と自信があれば、鬼に金棒。
Skill and confidence are an unconquered army.
鬼に金棒
strength of Samson // The more Moors, the better victory.
鬼に金棒；《諺》
ogre with an iron club
彼女がついててくれたら鬼に金棒だ
With her help, I can't lose.
「彼がうちの野球チームに入ってくれたら鬼に金棒なんだけど」「忙し過ぎて野球をする暇がないって彼は言ってたよ」
"If he joins our baseball team, that will put the icing on the cake." "He said he was too busy and had no time to play baseball."

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KathyT
日本
Local time: 06:58

Grading comment

Thank you, everybody.
I like this one with "unbeatable".
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5 +6

Acquiring financial skills gives (one) an unbeatable advantage

KathyT

4 -1

Please see explanation:

Saiwai Translation Services

3 -1

Hercules with the distaff (and see explanation)

CELC Inc

unbeatable combination

Maynard Hogg

1 -1

double advantage

cinefil

回答

12分自信度：

ピアによる賛成(ネット数)： -1

鬼に金棒 double advantage

説明：
just a guess

cinefil
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Local time: 05:58
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17分自信度：

ピアによる賛成(ネット数)： +6

鬼に金棒

Acquiring financial skills gives (one) an unbeatable advantage

KathyT
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Local time: 06:58
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Grading comment

Thank you, everybody.
I like this one with "unbeatable".

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xxxweshare: I had checked the original meaning in Japanese Japanese dictionary, and it says that giving a strong one with more strength. So, I agree with you.

56分

-> Thank you, weshare!

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Can Altinbay: I'd say you put the point across the best.

2時間

-> Thank you, Can.

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cocopuff: unbeatable answer!

6時間

-> Thank you, cocopuff. Cute handle :-)

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humbird: Good job! I believe you gave a new twist to this much hackneyed expressin. My personal preference however is "Ogre with an iron club", if not too literal.

9時間

-> Thank you, humbird.

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sumc

12時間

-> Thank you, sumc-san.

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Maynard Hogg: perfect for this context!

1日20分

-> Thank you, Maynard.

24分自信度：

ピアによる賛成(ネット数)： -1

鬼に金棒 Hercules with the distaff (and see explanation)

説明：
ファイナンスのスキルを身に付けられたら鬼に金棒ではないですか
It would be like Hercules with the distaff if he/she acquired financial skills.

This is a classical English phrase that, while accurate, may not be appropriate for your translation. In that case, you could try some colloquial example, like "giving Ichiro a tee to bat from" or something.

Another option might be to just translate fairly literally: "It would be like handing an iron club to an ogre if he/she acquired financial skills," or "He/she would be like an ogre who's gotten hold of an iron club if..."

Finally, you could try: "He/she would even more formidable if..."

Good luck

レファレンス http://www.246.ne.jp/~kotowaza/abstracts.html

CELC Inc
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1時間自信度：

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鬼に金棒 Please see explanation:

説明：

It would be great if he/she acquired financial skills.

Usually 鬼に金棒 (おににかなぼう)means make one even stronger .
In other words his/her plus point, additional feature, advantage.

Please see:

http://www.alice-it.com/proverbs/proverbs-a.html

http://buna.yorku.ca/japanese/idiom_all.html#o

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Note added at 1 hr 18 mins (2005-08-25 06:02:27 GMT)
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鬼に金棒

【読み】おににかなぼう
【意味】ただでさえ強い鬼（おに）が鉄（てつ）の棒（ぼう）を持つこと。強い上にさらに強さが加（くわ）わること。

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Note added at 1 hr 23 mins (2005-08-25 06:07:35 GMT)
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鬼に金棒（おににかなぼう）

普段でさえ力が強い鬼に鉄の棒を持たせるかのように、強い上にさらに強さが増すことのたとえ

Saiwai Translation Services
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1日37分自信度：

unbeatable combination

説明：
would be my gloss, but this context called for something different because it didn't give the other half of the pair.

レファレンス http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=lang_en&as_qdr...

Maynard Hogg
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