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Meta Arkadia
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Nope Jul 13, 2015

Tom in London wrote:
with BootCamp and VirtualBox you do have to re-boot every time

BootCamp requires re-booting whenever you want to use the other OS. Not much of a pain, since re-booting is pretty fast nowadays. The undeniable advantage is, that you have all your hardware resources (including RAM) available for each OS. And if you really have to use Windows, you can use your mobile device to send and receive e-mails, since nobody in his right mind wants to use the Internet with Windows.

VirtualBox is a virtual machine, just like Parallels and VMWare, and runs both OSs simultaneously. No re-booting required.

Both are free (money-wise).

Cheers,

Hans

[Edited at 2015-07-13 15:34 GMT]


 
Fernando Toledo
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I use Jul 13, 2015

VMWare Fusion since many years, now with 8.1 and nothing to complain about.

There are some comparisons in Youtube, but I think both are great.

Anyway, I would now wait a few months and see the new generation of windows machines with Windows 10.

I am very disappointed with the development of Apple in the last years.


 
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Just fell out of my desk chair laughing. Thanks for that, Hans. Jul 13, 2015

Meta Arkadia wrote:

Tom in London wrote:
with BootCamp and VirtualBox you do have to re-boot every time

BootCamp requires re-booting whenever you want to use the other OS. Not much of a pain, since re-booting is pretty fast nowadays. The undeniable advantage is, that you have all your hardware resources (including RAM) available for each OS. And if you really have to use Windows, you can use your mobile device to send and receive e-mails, since nobody in his right mind wants to use the Internet with Windows.

VirtualBox is a virtual machine, just like Parallels and VMWare, and runs both OSs simultaneously. No re-booting required.

Both are free (money-wise).

Cheers,

Hans

[Edited at 2015-07-13 15:34 GMT]


Dusting myself off now and getting back into my chair, to press the "Post reply" button, on my trusty Dell Precision M6800 workstation, running Windows 7 (with 60.98% of the current total market share, I might add).



[Edited at 2015-07-13 16:56 GMT]


 
Bruno Depascale
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simplify things and avoid apple computers for this job Jul 13, 2015

Jenna Malcomson wrote:

Thanks for your reply Michael. I am not particularly tech savvy so I think I would need to avoid trying to complicate things for myself.

Can anyone with any experience of running parallels tell me their experience of this- i.e. is it hard to do, much more expensive, and does it cause the laptop to slow down a lot?


Hi Jenna,
I started using mac computers some 4 years ago because I thought would have been faster and more reliable compared to a standard computer.
I use windows on 2 computers through parallels. In these years I have experienced many problems in order to make it work properly, but nonetheless occasionally I experience some slowness of the system. I keep the imac always on idle mode, because shutting down a mac and a virtual machine is a very time-consuming task. Moreover, office for mac has many problems, it's very slow to open documents and sometimes I simply have to close it forcefully down. Apart from this, you should also buy windows licenses for each of your computers, and also microsoft office for windows because many cat tools need microsoft word. I suggest you to keep things simple and avoid using windows on mac.
I think my next computer won't be a mac, as I like to simplify things, not complicate them.


 
2nl (X)
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Problems Jul 13, 2015

Bruno Depascale wrote:

I keep the imac always on idle mode, because shutting down a mac and a virtual machine is a very time-consuming task. Moreover, office for mac has many problems, it's very slow to open documents and sometimes I simply have to close it forcefully down.


Could you please give some details about your system, like: amount of RAM, CAT tool, type of documents (size, presence of big graphics)?

Please note that I do not question the problems that you were/are experiencing. It's just that I would like to figure out what could be the cause.

Not that this info will do you any good, but I don't recognise these problems on any of my Macs. Shutting down a VM is very fast. Shutting down a Mac is quite fast (although I seldom do so). I don't work a lot in Word (since I use a CAT tool), but when I open large manuals that I've exported from my CAT tool, Word is fast and stable.

I'm happy that the moderator of this forum allows mentioning PCs although this is supposed to be a Mac forum. Open discussions are good!


 
Meta Arkadia
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Let's blame Apple! Jul 13, 2015

Bruno Depascale wrote:
...shutting down a mac and a virtual machine is a very time-consuming task.

Moreover, office for mac has many problems, it's very slow to open documents and sometimes I simply have to close it forcefully down.

Apart from this, you should also buy windows licenses for each of your computers, and also microsoft office for windows because many cat tools need microsoft word.


Now even if this were true, do you think it's fair to blame Apple for your problems with a third party virtual machine, a third party word processor, and the fact you have to pay for a third party OS license and a third party office suite? By the way, shutting down two operating systems takes longer than shutting down one. Strange, isn't it?

Fernando Toledo wrote:
I am very disappointed with the development of Apple in the last years.


Very, very informative. I bet the OP will thank you for this.

Cheers,

Hans


 
Bruno Depascale
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here they are Jul 14, 2015

2nl wrote:

Bruno Depascale wrote:

I keep the imac always on idle mode, because shutting down a mac and a virtual machine is a very time-consuming task. Moreover, office for mac has many problems, it's very slow to open documents and sometimes I simply have to close it forcefully down.


Could you please give some details about your system, like: amount of RAM, CAT tool, type of documents (size, presence of big graphics)?

Please note that I do not question the problems that you were/are experiencing. It's just that I would like to figure out what could be the cause.

Not that this info will do you any good, but I don't recognise these problems on any of my Macs. Shutting down a VM is very fast. Shutting down a Mac is quite fast (although I seldom do so). I don't work a lot in Word (since I use a CAT tool), but when I open large manuals that I've exported from my CAT tool, Word is fast and stable.

I'm happy that the moderator of this forum allows mentioning PCs although this is supposed to be a Mac forum. Open discussions are good!


Sure, no problem about that:

- OS X Yosemite 10.10.2
- iMac 13,1 (21,5 inches, end 2012)
- 2,7 GHz Intel Core i5
- 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
- NVIDIA GeForce GT 640M 512 MB

Parallels desktop 10 - 10.2.1:
- 4 GB memory
- 3 CPU
- Video memory: 256 MB
- Virtual machine size: 454 GB
- Trados 2014 SP2

To open microsoft word, it takes about 3-4 minutes and to close any single application take the same amount of time...I have also tried formatting the machine, without any results..so I think it is really better to have a more traditional machine that does it work well than a stylish imac that "promise" you to save time but in the end is slower than a standard computer.





[Edited at 2015-07-14 17:34 GMT]


 
Vladimir Pochinov
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MacBook - Screen size is likely to be insufficient Jul 14, 2015

Hi Fernando,

I understand the screen size is 13".

From my experience, even the 15" screen on my MacBook Pro makes it rather hard to use SDL Trados Studio while I am away from my 27" Apple Thunderbolt Display. You will have too little space to see all Studio windows (Translation Results, Term Recognition, Termbase Viewer), let alone any other applications you might need (a dictionary, a PDF viewer, a browser, etc.).


 
Fernando Toledo
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Home versus traveling Jul 14, 2015

Vladimir Pochinov wrote:

Hi Fernando,

I understand the screen size is 13".

From my experience, even the 15" screen on my MacBook Pro makes it rather hard to use SDL Trados Studio while I am away from my 27" Apple Thunderbolt Display. You will have too little space to see all Studio windows (Translation Results, Term Recognition, Termbase Viewer), let alone any other applications you might need (a dictionary, a PDF viewer, a browser, etc.).


At home I have a extra monitor DELL 27" matt, but for traveling, the weight has priority. I can handle to work in a 13", no problem.

Anyway, now I will wait for Windows 10 and the next generation of Ultrabooks. It is a kind of stupid to buy a Mac if I can't see anymore the Apple apps (iCloud, Mail, Photos, iTUnes, etc.) and his priority system, cables etc.

[Edited at 2015-07-14 17:15 GMT]


 
Fernando Toledo
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Home versus traveling Jul 14, 2015

Vladimir Pochinov wrote:

Hi Fernando,

I understand the screen size is 13".

From my experience, even the 15" screen on my MacBook Pro makes it rather hard to use SDL Trados Studio while I am away from my 27" Apple Thunderbolt Display. You will have too little space to see all Studio windows (Translation Results, Term Recognition, Termbase Viewer), let alone any other applications you might need (a dictionary, a PDF viewer, a browser, etc.).


At home I have a DELL 27" matt, but for traveling, the weight has priority. I can handle to work in a 13", no problem.

Anyway, now I will wait for Windows 10 and the next generation of Ultrabooks. It is a kind of stupid to buy a Mac if I can't see anymore the Apple apps (iCloud, Mail, Photos, iTUnes, etc.) and his priority system, cables etc.


 
Fernando Toledo
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Just my opinion Jul 14, 2015


Fernando Toledo wrote:
I am very disappointed with the development of Apple in the last years.


Very, very informative. I bet the OP will thank you for this.

Cheers,

Hans


Why can I not say what I actually feel about Apple? (I am using Apple since 20 years!)

I see all the recents update goes not to a better system for professionals, but for consumers to force you to use his products, many new functions are only useful is you have a iPhone, etc. sharing mechanisms just to get data from you to sell his products. The innovative and "fresh air" from the past is gone. The great time with Photography (downgrading from Aperture to Photo), Audio (Logic is actual not so good like others DAWs), etc. is gone.

The hardware is (still) very good...




[Edited at 2015-07-14 19:31 GMT]


 
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Hypercardventilating Jul 14, 2015

Fernando Toledo wrote:
The great time with Photography (downgrading from Aperture to Photo), Audio (Logic is actual not so good like others DAWs), etc. is gone.

Apple simply realised highly specialised software companies provided better - or at least more used - highly specialised software. Adobe's Lightroom is arguably better than Aperture. More or less the same goes for Logic. They ended the life of Logic Express, and lowered the price of Logic to the Logic Express level. And as you mentioned, there are third party apps to fill the gap. That wasn't always the case. I'm still pissed they stopped developing HyperCard and - closer to home - AppleTrans. But you can't maintain a specialised software environment for each and every specialism.
If you buy a Mac now, it comes with all thinkable apps for daily use that are more than good enough for that purpose. No additional costs.

...many new functions are only useful is you have a iPhone


Apple != Mac, and it never was. Apple is hardware+operating system+apps+content. It's the only integrated computer system available. Vertically yours. And Apple added the iPod, the iPhone, and the iWatch to the hardware mix. It makes sense to provide software functionality for those devices. And you don't have to use it. It doesn't cost you a penny.

...sharing mechanisms just to get data from you to sell his products

It's a business. You don't have to share those data, but you're crazy if you don't. They are functional, what cannot be said for "certain other companies" that are after your data.

The hardware is (still) very good...


The hardware is superior, and all of it. Although there are other brands that sell excellent hardware, Apple is the only brand that exclusively sells superior hardware. The others sell faeces as well, to the point you can't be sure if the Lenovo you want to buy is one of those excellent ones, or if it'll fall apart after a few weeks. That, combined with the excellent service, and the fact that an Apple product retains much its value even after years and years, makes a Mac the only reasonable choice [/fanboyism].

Cheers,

Hans (a Mac since 1987)


 
2nl (X)
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Thank you Jul 15, 2015


- OS X Yosemite 10.10.2
- iMac 13,1 (21,5 inches, end 2012)


So you have a 21" iMac? (Not sure what the 13,1 means...)



- 2,7 GHz Intel Core i5
- 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
- NVIDIA GeForce GT 640M 512 MB

Parallels desktop 10 - 10.2.1:
- 4 GB memory
- 3 CPU
- Video memory: 256 MB



These are very good specs!



- Virtual machine size: 454 GB


That's strange. What do you have installed in this VM? The VM on this MacBook Pro has memoQ, Transit, Studio and Déjà Vu and is only 35 GB.


To open microsoft word, it takes about 3-4 minutes and to close any single application take the same amount of time...I have also tried formatting the machine, without any results


The start up time for MS Word (I assume that you mean the Mac version) is extremely long (it should be 10-15 seconds or so, with your iMac).

What do you mean by 'tried formatting the machine, without any results'? Do you mean that you tried to set up a fresh OS X but that you didn't succeed? Or: I you were able to set up a fresh OS X but that didn't make any difference. If you did succeed in setting up a fresh OS X: how did you you create your VM? By restoring it from the TimeMachine?

Did you install Yosemite over previous versions of OS X? That could cause some problems too. OS X isn't perfect either. You'll get the best performance by saving your documents and ongoing translation projects on an external drive or in your Dropbox and setting up everything from scratch. Don't be afraid, it's simple and doesn't take much time.

I'm happy to give more info!


 
Meta Arkadia
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Fonts and TRIM Jul 15, 2015

Bruno Depascale wrote:
To open microsoft word, it takes about 3-4 minutes


It takes less than 5 seconds on my 10,1 iMac with a rotational HDD. At the moment, I can think of two likely causes:
  • Fonts. Cleaning the fonts cache may speed up the process considerably (apart for the first time after cleaning, of course)
  • SSD. Is it an original Apple SSD? TRIM enabled?

    Cheers,

    Hans

     
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    Office in Mac Jul 15, 2015

    I use Office365 and the new version Office 2016 is much quicker!

     
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