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Can the "Vote non-pro" box please be repositioned?
Thread poster: Tom in London
Tom in London
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Dec 21, 2020

Increasingly I find myself having to reclassify really elementary questions as "non-pro".

Unfortunately when people suggest answers to these questions, their suggestions push the "Vote non-pro" box way down the page where it can't be seen - unless you specifically go looking for it.

The image below is an example of what such a question looks like immediately after it has been posted. The "Vote non-pro" box is clear to see. The question itself is very elementary; no pro
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Increasingly I find myself having to reclassify really elementary questions as "non-pro".

Unfortunately when people suggest answers to these questions, their suggestions push the "Vote non-pro" box way down the page where it can't be seen - unless you specifically go looking for it.

The image below is an example of what such a question looks like immediately after it has been posted. The "Vote non-pro" box is clear to see. The question itself is very elementary; no professional translator should ever need to ask such a question. The asker is clearly out of their depth.

But as soon as two or three people have made suggestions and/or made discussion entries, the "Vote non-pro" box disappears out of sight. So my request is:

Please reposition the "Vote non-pro" box so that it stays fixed immediately below the original question. Shouldn't be too hard to do!

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Non-pro? Dec 21, 2020

I don't really understand the rush to classify certain questions as "non-pro." Sometimes the translator may understand the words themselves but is questioning whether they are fully appropriate for the context. For example, "graphic and communication design" sounds more like a field of study than how a graphic designer might be credited at the beginning of a book...so it may be that she is asking whether this is ever done. To me, that seems like a reasonable question and shows that the asker car... See more
I don't really understand the rush to classify certain questions as "non-pro." Sometimes the translator may understand the words themselves but is questioning whether they are fully appropriate for the context. For example, "graphic and communication design" sounds more like a field of study than how a graphic designer might be credited at the beginning of a book...so it may be that she is asking whether this is ever done. To me, that seems like a reasonable question and shows that the asker cares about these nuances. However, the question should also be more specific. It is in the front matter of the book, but in what context/format?Collapse


 
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New interface Dec 21, 2020

Not only that, Tom - if you have a look at the new KudoZ interface, you will notice there is no such option at all. I always use the new interface, and I honestly had no idea what some people were talking about when they mentioned the "Vote non-pro" button. I had to switch to the old interface in order to find out.

@Arabic & More, actually, I think this is a very important option, and it should be used more often. I had to filter some askers who kept asking questions even a six-year
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Not only that, Tom - if you have a look at the new KudoZ interface, you will notice there is no such option at all. I always use the new interface, and I honestly had no idea what some people were talking about when they mentioned the "Vote non-pro" button. I had to switch to the old interface in order to find out.

@Arabic & More, actually, I think this is a very important option, and it should be used more often. I had to filter some askers who kept asking questions even a six-year-old could have answered.
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Christopher Schröder
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Nah Dec 21, 2020

Tempting as it is, the non-pro button is not actually there to express disgust at others' ignorance.

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Tom in London
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Naturally. Dec 21, 2020

Chris S wrote:

Tempting as it is, the non-pro button is not actually there to express disgust at others' ignorance.


That is certainly not the purpose of the non-pro button and I am quite sure that is not why Proz.com offers it as an option. I'm glad we agree.


 
Tom in London
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I tried Dec 21, 2020

Marina Taffetani wrote:

Not only that, Tom - if you have a look at the new KudoZ interface, you will notice there is no such option at all. I always use the new interface, and I honestly had no idea what some people were talking about when they mentioned the "Vote non-pro" button. I had to switch to the old interface in order to find out.

@Arabic & More, actually, I think this is a very important option, and it should be used more often. I had to filter some askers who kept asking questions even a six-year-old could have answered.


I did try to find the new interface but didn't succeed. So I have no idea what it looks like !


 
Tom in London
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Rush? Dec 21, 2020

Arabic & More wrote:

I don't really understand the rush to classify certain questions as "non-pro."


I hadn't noticed that there was a rush.


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Christopher Schröder
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Top of page Dec 21, 2020

Tom in London wrote:

Marina Taffetani wrote:

Not only that, Tom - if you have a look at the new KudoZ interface, you will notice there is no such option at all. I always use the new interface, and I honestly had no idea what some people were talking about when they mentioned the "Vote non-pro" button. I had to switch to the old interface in order to find out.

@Arabic & More, actually, I think this is a very important option, and it should be used more often. I had to filter some askers who kept asking questions even a six-year-old could have answered.


I did try to find the new interface but didn't succeed. So I have no idea what it looks like !


Click the "try new version" text at the top of the page in KudoZ, highlighted in a lovely shade of apricot


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In that case... Dec 21, 2020

Tom in London wrote:
That is certainly not the purpose of the non-pro button

So why do you need ready access to it?


 
philgoddard
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I don't think this is an issue Dec 21, 2020

I've never found the Vote Non Pro button difficult to locate.

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Tom in London
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Because Dec 21, 2020

Chris S wrote:

Tom in London wrote:
That is certainly not the purpose of the non-pro button

So why do you need ready access to it?


Because it has another purpose. If you don't understand what the purpose is, please say so.


 
Christopher Schröder
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Do enlighten me Dec 21, 2020

Tom in London wrote:

Chris S wrote:

Tom in London wrote:
That is certainly not the purpose of the non-pro button

So why do you need ready access to it?


Because it has another purpose. If you don't understand what the purpose is, please say so.

No, I don’t know what you think the purpose is.


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Tom in London
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So Dec 22, 2020

Chris S wrote:

Tom in London wrote:

Chris S wrote:

Tom in London wrote:
That is certainly not the purpose of the non-pro button

So why do you need ready access to it?


Because it has another purpose. If you don't understand what the purpose is, please say so.

No, I don’t know what you think the purpose is.


So what you think Proz,com intends its purpose to be?


 
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Talking at ... Dec 22, 2020

... cross purposes?

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Go on, spill the beans! Dec 22, 2020

Tom in London wrote:
So what you think Proz,com intends its purpose to be? [sic]

I'm not entirely sure to be honest, especially after reading the FAQ, which is why I'm hoping you might tell me.

But I didn't see "a translator being out of their depth" as a reason for a question to be classified as non-pro. It seems mostly aimed at people who fell in love with a local on their hols.


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