Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

sabato grasso

English translation:

samedi gras

Added to glossary by Traducendo Co. Ltd
Nov 7, 2008 09:44
15 yrs ago
Italian term

sabato grasso

Italian to English Other Folklore
a Carnivale...
in English I only see fat Tuesday (Mardi Gra)
is there a denomination in English for this day?
Change log

Nov 11, 2008 08:58: Traducendo Co. Ltd Created KOG entry

Discussion

Barbara Toffolon (X) Nov 7, 2008:
Sabato Grasso does not have an English equivalent. Evan "Fat Tuesday" is not an English equivalent and we still call it Mardi Gras...however only tuesday... no other carnival days are translated nor adopted from another language.

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samedi gras

non so se sia ufficiale come dicitura, ma su internet è pieno di annunci (in inglese) per le feste del samedi gras. magari ti aiuta.

buon lavoro

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volendo anche fat saturday, ma davvero mi sembra orribile e inoltre ha pochissime occorrenze
Peer comment(s):

agree Enza Longo : also lots of references to Fat Saturday so either or would do
1 hr
thx enza, it's true, but they lose the magic of the french....
agree potra : I think the French works best.
7 hrs
THX
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Shrove saturday

same as mardi gras "Shrove Tuesday"

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... we are told, on Shrove Saturday, i.e., the Saturday before Ash Wednesday, and remained there until Holy Saturday, the eve of Easter Sunday. ...
www.libraryireland.com/HealyEssays/Patrick2.php

Shrove Saturday Planning. 12:30 p.m. 150th Banquet Committee. Library ... Saturday, February 2, 5:00 p.m. Shrove Saturday Evening-Pancake Supper and Youth ...
www.central-presbyterian.org/worship/pdf_bulletin/080113_bu...

Disheartened, Patrick remains on Croaghpatrick from Shrove Saturday to Easter Saturday, abstaining from both food and drink. As to Moses, God ...
[email protected]/msg00115.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ms...

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Dictionnaire Le Robert & Collins:
Shrovetide : les jours gras (les les trois jours précédant précédant le Carême) - ex. Shrove Tuesday (le) Mardi gras

Shrove Tuesday is the term used in Ireland, the United Kingdom,[1] Australia,[2] and Canada to refer to the day after Shrove Monday (or the more old fashioned Collop Monday) and before Ash Wednesday (the liturgical season of Lent begins on Ash Wednesday). In Ireland, the UK, and amongst Anglicans, Lutherans and possibly other Protestant denominations in Canada including Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island and New Brunswick, this day is also known as Pancake Day, because it is customary to eat pancakes on this day.[3][4][5] In other parts of the world—for example, in historically CATHOLIC AND FRENCH-SPEAKING PARTS OF THE UNITED STATES and elsewhere—this day is called Mardi Gras. In areas with large Polish-immigrant populations (for example, Chicago) it is known as Tłusty Czwartek (literally: Fat Thursday) and celebrated on the Thursday before Lent. And in areas with large German-immigrant populations (for example, Pennsylvania Dutch Country) it is known as Fasnacht Day (also spelled Fausnacht Day and Fauschnaut Day.
The word shrove is a past tense of the English verb "shrive," which means to obtain absolution for one's sins by confessing and doing penance.[6] Shrove Tuesday gets its name from the shriving (confessing) that Anglo-Saxon Christians were expected to do prior to receiving absolution immediately before Lent.

The term "Shrove Tuesday" is not widely known in the United States, especially in those regions that celebrate Mardi Gras on the day before Ash Wednesday (AND THAT IS PROBABLY BECAUSE THE MOST FAMOUS ONE IN USA IS CELEBRATED IN NEW ORLEANS)
Peer comment(s):

agree Peter Cox
23 hrs
Thanks Peter
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Sabato grasso

Lent starts four days later than in the Roman Rite, so that there is no Ash Wednesday, and Carnival continues until "sabato grasso" ("Fat Saturday" in Italian), corresponding to Shrove Tuesday (called "mardi gras", i.e. "Fat Tuesday", in French) in areas where the Roman Rite is used.
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Mara Ballarini : I'd leave it in Italian with an explanation in brackets/notes
12 mins
Likewise, thanks!
agree James (Jim) Davis : Has to be some explanation, I'd take shrove Saturday to be a careless mistake for pancake day (shrove Tuesday).
28 mins
Personally, I would be happy eating pancakes any day of the week!
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