Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Japanese term or phrase:
谷間
English translation:
Overlooked (neglected) part
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Mari Hodges
Nov 17, 2005 20:54
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谷間
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The word is used in:
組織間のダブりや谷間、ズレは大企業ならばどこにでもある。
and in
組織構造は最適なのか、日々起きる問題に効率的に対処するにはどうするかなど、谷間の仕事が実は大きな流れを作る宝の山なのである。
Thank you for any help!
組織間のダブりや谷間、ズレは大企業ならばどこにでもある。
and in
組織構造は最適なのか、日々起きる問題に効率的に対処するにはどうするかなど、谷間の仕事が実は大きな流れを作る宝の山なのである。
Thank you for any help!
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Japanese term (edited):
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Overlooked (neglecte) part OR Trough
I have a hunc these are two different 谷間.
As for the first one, due to 組織間のダブりや谷間, big organization always has a part usually not well tended to, or neglected area. So it appears they are talking about organizational incompleteness.
On the other hand, in the second sentence, this 谷間 seems to indicate "when things are not going well", namely economic and/or performance trough -- as trough and peak. A bad time. This I say if they are talking about up and down of their performance.
As I said same word 谷間 appears to referring to two different matter. Context or your example does not help to pinpoint this.
Or speaker does not know what he is talking about, or not clearly defining the word (unfortunately that is often the case in Japanese thinking mode).
As for the first one, due to 組織間のダブりや谷間, big organization always has a part usually not well tended to, or neglected area. So it appears they are talking about organizational incompleteness.
On the other hand, in the second sentence, this 谷間 seems to indicate "when things are not going well", namely economic and/or performance trough -- as trough and peak. A bad time. This I say if they are talking about up and down of their performance.
As I said same word 谷間 appears to referring to two different matter. Context or your example does not help to pinpoint this.
Or speaker does not know what he is talking about, or not clearly defining the word (unfortunately that is often the case in Japanese thinking mode).
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "thank you everyone. I went with 'neglected.'"
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Japanese term (edited):
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gap
Just a guess
Note from asker:
| Thank you, Ishigami san. What does this mean in the context of a company though? Is it work that somebody isn't doing? |
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uncovered areas
Areas that are not covered by any of the departments in the organizational division of reposibility.
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Japanese term (edited):
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execution gap
And if execution was eventually possible, most integration or business process
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Japanese term (edited):
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These two 谷間s have a little bit different meaning.
組織間のダブりや谷間、ズレ in 大企業 is simply saying about "uncovered area in the organization structure" as on Kawamura's answer.
最適なのか、日々起きる問題に効率的に対処するにはどうするかなど、谷間の仕事
In this context, 谷間 implies not simply the above "uncovered area". this "谷間の仕事" implies "working area very difficult to cover forever".
Previous 谷間 should be covered by adjustment of organizations.
Latter 谷間 should be covered by effort to work efficiently and apply more efficient method to work.
最適なのか、日々起きる問題に効率的に対処するにはどうするかなど、谷間の仕事
In this context, 谷間 implies not simply the above "uncovered area". this "谷間の仕事" implies "working area very difficult to cover forever".
Previous 谷間 should be covered by adjustment of organizations.
Latter 谷間 should be covered by effort to work efficiently and apply more efficient method to work.
18 hrs
Japanese term (edited):
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Divide/Distance, Niche
I agree with one of the posted answer that they are interestingly two different 谷間 presented in this question.
<1>
組織間のダブりや谷間
This 谷間 is closer to 隔たり. "DIVIDE" or "DISTANCE" among organizations within an enterprise.
<2>
組織国｢は最適なのか、日々起きる問題に効率的に対処するにはどうするかなど、谷間の仕事が実は大きな流れを作る宝の山なのである。
I feel that there is certain positive vibe for this 谷間. Some over looked tasks that can produce a bigger result. How about "NICHES"?
<1>
組織間のダブりや谷間
This 谷間 is closer to 隔たり. "DIVIDE" or "DISTANCE" among organizations within an enterprise.
<2>
組織国｢は最適なのか、日々起きる問題に効率的に対処するにはどうするかなど、谷間の仕事が実は大きな流れを作る宝の山なのである。
I feel that there is certain positive vibe for this 谷間. Some over looked tasks that can produce a bigger result. How about "NICHES"?
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Japanese term (edited):
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Gap
組織の_谷間_に消えてしまうIT投資効果を蘇らせる。
株式会社NTTデータ
株式会社NTTデータシステムデザイン
マネージング・ディレクター
宋 修 永
【講演概要】
グローバルに業務を進めることは日常のものとなり、販売・調達・生産・物流など各組織機能の個別最適経営では生存競争を勝ち抜くことは既に困難になっている。こうした状況を受け、各企業は機能間連携・組織間連携の強化に取り組んでおり、ITに対しても組織、機能間の連携を強化する機能を求めている。
しかしながら、完全な構想に基づいて導入したはずのシステムが本物にならなくて、当初想定した経営効果の実現はおろか、妨げになっているケースがあまりにも多い。本セッションでは、特にサプライチェーン上の業務改革とITのギャップの原因究明と効果の出ないシステムを蘇らせる勘所を事例を挙げて説明する。
株式会社NTTデータ
株式会社NTTデータシステムデザイン
マネージング・ディレクター
宋 修 永
【講演概要】
グローバルに業務を進めることは日常のものとなり、販売・調達・生産・物流など各組織機能の個別最適経営では生存競争を勝ち抜くことは既に困難になっている。こうした状況を受け、各企業は機能間連携・組織間連携の強化に取り組んでおり、ITに対しても組織、機能間の連携を強化する機能を求めている。
しかしながら、完全な構想に基づいて導入したはずのシステムが本物にならなくて、当初想定した経営効果の実現はおろか、妨げになっているケースがあまりにも多い。本セッションでは、特にサプライチェーン上の業務改革とITのギャップの原因究明と効果の出ないシステムを蘇らせる勘所を事例を挙げて説明する。
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